It is SO powerful! Much of the time, putting faith in one another brings you joy. Long story short it really bothered me that I can not tell him how I really feel about him because we are both ironically attending church but I felt that he really likes me as well. Please can someone find me some positive end result here because I have not too much hope after reading that article aboyt the 12 house and I am going insane because I can not really tell anyone what is going on in my life> (husband, kids or even him)I do not want to hurt anybodys life but that means I have to give up my love which is just to hurtful to do! Our ascendant is also pisces but our Uranus-Venus opposite position makes lots of deals in our relationship besides the 12th and 6th house. We feel it has a nebulous, yet mysteriously powerful influence on our lives when we have planets there, even though we cant quite fathom the type of influence it wieldsare we being seduced to a precipitous cliff by external forces, or are the demons within driving us to the edge? Composite Neptune: Sink or Swim? - Sasstrology.com Me and my friend have composite sun conj. 12th House seems to be the most frightening of all the houses to me, because the primal urge towards each other is such a deep and profoundly spiritual one, that you think, theres no way I could find this depth with another. Im in hawaii for a month, after he broke up with me for the last time, trying to get my strength and sanity back and assure myself that you should not have to TRY so hard for things to work, when these 12th issues come up to work on. Does that sound like enough glue to counter the 12th house effects? Composite north node (Aquarius) trine composite Saturn in Libra (which is conjunct his natal sun). (anyone who has ever fallen in love and had planets with that person in 12th composite will know..). i have it conjunct in our davison3rd house- and opposite in4th-10th in composite. But it was very devastating experience getting physical, it really failed the first time and we didnt try it again. VERY-VERY SORRY! I am reasonably happy in my 3+ year marriage, and yet, I still miss my former boyfriend desperately sometimes. thank you for this article, im really having a hard time understanding the 12th house, as you concluded we all do.. and i dont know why, this last paragraph brought a tear to my eye.. because its so true, so well said. I live in a kind of constant daydream /illusion of being near my beloved ghost I know this is not truth , but I dont know how I could do without. Composite Saturn is in the 1st. It isnt that theyre unhappyno, they seem to go more the extreme of bliss altering with despair. Venus in 12th House Personality Traits | Ryan Hart Thank you for such an eloquent understanding, this has helped me. hi dawn:) The same person I've had mutual 12th house synastry with has sun in 12th house composite with me. I have 3 planets in my natal chart in 12th house (mercury,sun,mars) and we have 2 planets,which are identical in my natal(mercury and sun), in the composite chart in 12th house with someone who i talked for 6 months but we never dated.We also have our moon in pisces in 6th house. 3) Angles in the houses & aspects. People born with Chiron in the 12th house struggle with their psyche, spirituality, and vulnerability. The Sun and Moon in the 7th house are especially encouraging for a new relationship (if you're single) because your main focus for the year (the Sun) plus your emotional concerns will be united in that area. Curious about the sexual response (if there will be anything), its friendly. Thank you very much Dawn. After I read and then I re-read this was the conclusion that I am more confused than before but more peaceful and more tolerant with my fate. Thank you for this piece it is prompting reflection. If you dont like how someone operates, who cares how connected you are to them? Black Moon Lilith in 12th house suggests an interest in the occult and esoteric teachings. Composite Neptune conjunct the angles (within 4 to 5 degrees) gives Neptune prominence in the relationship. I am so sad because I would have never meet him IF my husband and this man, and his wife would not become friends with him in church, ( I did not go to church for a while so I would not meet them!) scares me a bit. We talk with each other and I know he loved me and still does like me , we talk in the church when we can but none of us really telling the real story (which is so 12 house thing). So beautifully written Dawn. We have an interesting stellium in the 6th Uranus, Eros, Ceres, and Vertex all within a degree of each other. You're hypersensitive to energy and emotions in your environment, including the collective, if Chiron is in the 12th House. If I did not believe in Karma or Fate now I do not have ANY DOUBT that really something runs our life from out there for good or bad The Uranus/Mercury conjunction in the composite can make the relationship more mental than physical. You can imagine the past 10 years have not been easy. Reply. Ninety-three percent of her astro is in the 12th: the Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Lilith, Jupiter, Saturn, and Uranus. The composite charts (both Davison and midpoint) need to be progressed. The composite chart is probably the best known. so we find the True in each other. He told me that had never happened to him before (referring to how we couldnt control ourselves). What you said about compo Sun/Neptune is very interesting Please I would like to know Dawn,according to you it is important to notice what this compo Sun/Neptune conjuncts in each individual charts, to determine more precisely how each person is going to feed this confusing Sun /Neptune by his/her personal points .? I have to come to grips with it (what you said) altough it is not an easy thing for me when it comes to love (being an Aries lol I want to love with a passion and not just except it as an idea). Something is whispering in their ears. Its also trine to the moon and sextiling Uranus. I might even say hes one of the closest people to me. His sun, mercury and chiron is in the 12 house in his natal chart. but the composite chart provides the critical information of where a relationship is going and what are its advantages and disadvantages? Everything you said is so on point. Now I just have to sit and wait around where it is got to leave us! Sorry I cant get into too much detail here, but if your composite Sun is conjunct Saturn, Pluto and the Ascendant then you can only take comfort in the fact that the relationship is meant to be transforming and spiritually challenging. I dont have enough information, but the chart emphasis leads me to believe that you are right in your analysis, that the partnership finds its life in the upper houses. Composite Venus in the 12th House. So sad! We also have composite venus in the 12th house. Keteki says: May 7, 2012 at 4:21 pm . His Saturn rules his moon and his ascendant, so it is a prominent planet, and as I said, he has Saturn conjunct his north node natally. A lot of native speakers make this same mistake, and worse. Black Moon Lilith in 12th House: the Ultimate Guide - Astrology If I murdered this illusion, it would be like if I murdered my own soul ; I just cant . Lilith in the 12th House. When transit Pluto is in the composite 12th house, you may feel more powerful and connected in the relationship when its just the two of you, behind closed doors, no one to bother. Looking at the chart, it seems to be propelling us into Aquarius, and Aquarian age type of love. The Moon/Mars (Virgo) sextiles a close Sun/Jupiter (Cancer) conjunction in the 10th, sextiles Uranus (Scorpio) in the 2nd, trines Ceres (Capricorn) in the 4th, and squares Neptune (Sagittarius) in the 3rd all very close aspects. This man can be my everything and this feeling will not change. We had an instant connection, and I ended up in his apartment the first night we met. What is the difference between Midpoint and Davison as Your opinion? The area of the 12th house in which Black Moon Lilith makes a person experience their unconscious fears, pain, shame, and denial relates to their spiritual transcendence, self-undoing, and their ability to dive deeper into the mysteries of life.. That is why this article discusses a potentially enlightening topic. In the end it was his choice to end it. I felt (sorry to say) that he is the big love of my life! He says what on thinking. But i ran of him, i really dont understand why, it makes me feel so sad. My 12 is in Leo, along with my Sun, Mercury, Mars and Pluto. 12th house issues are not always supportive. As far as the four major asteroids are concerned, I find that house position is not as important as aspect. Ultimately, both the 12th house and Neptune want us to get our egos out of the way. One thing is certain, and that is planets in the 12th house dont behave like any other. Chiron In 12th House, Chiron In Twelfth House Meaning, Chiron In 12th Im sorry, but all of the aspects you mentioned can be used as excuses to pull you back into a relationship that has ended for the other person: in particular, the trines. Its difficult because boundaries dissolve and we find it hard to maintain our separateness, which is necessary in a healthy relationship. The story of your inability to connect probably has more to do with your individual chart comparisons than the composite chart. The Mars/Neptune square did bring an element of slipperiness, but mostly irritating fibbing on his part. Both of us are on a spiritual path, which is very important to each of us. It was emotional and intense, also warm and familiar at the same time. We have Sun, Mercury, Venus, and Uranus in the 12th house in our composite chart. Youre a poet of poets. . Neptune tries to tell us that we cant own anything permanently, and if we try to possess and not understand the message of universal love (love is its own reward) it will pry our grasping fingers off of whatever we are trying to hold on to. I am not certain this person is a fit but yet there are alot of coincidences between us that keeps me boggled on the larger picture. Then we hurt each other. There is still a sense that anything can happen though, very unpredictable energy. Lilith in 12th House: Darkness All Over the Place As a 12th house person, I finally realized I enjoy the confusion. I met this men who i recall seeing 20 years ago once and a couple of other times within that 20 years. . You explain the ineffable. Black Moon Lilith in the Twelfth House - Gifts of Shadow You will both be changed deeply by it. That is really challenging chart I assume and I dont know whether I go for this guy or not. I would very much like to ask a question about Sun opposition Neptune in a composite especially if it is found as double whammy in synastry.From what I have read from your articles that particular dynamic is extremely difficult to get a grasp of.However I am wondering what kind of effect would Pluto in the 12th trine Sun would have on that aspect in the composite which is also double whammy in synastry.Especially since Pluto is the ruler of the Ascendant and Jupiter,co-ruler of Pisces hits that angle.My question has to do with whether in this case the 1st house plays a heavy role in the chart and balances the chaotic power of Sun-Neptune or whether it is so fused with piscean energy that the plutonian core searching is not enough to get through the neptunian fog.I know that you should see the whole chart and that the question is a bit absurd but I think there is a pattern here and I would really like to know even your smallest bit of opinion on the matter.Thank you in advance.